African American Stanford Law professor Ralph Richard Banks’ new book “Is Marriage For White People: How The African American Marriage Decline Affects Everyone” is causing quite a bit of controversy by taking a look at marriage and race over the last 10 years and how black women may need to start marrying outside their race. Check out a snippet Banks’ interview for Time magazine:
There are plenty of black men out there, so what’s keeping these women single?
Part of the answer lies in the gender imbalance within the black community — where two African American women graduate from college for every one African American male. Despite this imbalance, there is still enormous social pressure on black women to only marry black men — to “sustain” the race and build strong black families. And this means marrying black men even if they are less educated or earn less money. In short, no matter the personal cost, black woman are encourage to marry “down” before they marry “out.”
Down before out” — ouch! That sounds like a pretty harsh indictment.
Well, this has become almost a consensus view (within the black community). Authors like Steve Harvey and Hill Harper and particularly filmmaker Tyler Perry promote this notion that black women who lack good relationships are victims of their own elitism and snobbery. That they should open their eyes to the virtues of working-class black men and focus on their long-term potential. These kinds of messages tell a black female lawyer, for instance, that she should be enthusiastic about dating a carpenter or a plumber — and if she’s not, then she is the one with the problem. It pressures black women to give up certain kinds of life experiences (for the sake of a man) when white women are taught to cultivate them. This is simply bad advice that can lead these women into disastrous relationships.
Read more after the jump.
At a time when marriage is becoming less popular among all ethnicities, why such a strong focus on wedded bliss?
I’m not necessarily speaking of a physical marriage license, but rather the importance of a stable committed relationship — and there is a serious decline of committed stable relationships in black America today. This has many undesirable outcomes not just for adults, but also for children who are the most vulnerable parties here. Seventy percent of black children today are born to non-married partners; most of these relationships do not last, which means most of these kids grow up with just one parent and this is not an optimal situation for child-rearing.
So where does this leave black men? Seems to me they’re getting all of the blame here.
This book isn’t about demonizing black men, but looking at the consequences of their failures. We are not necessarily exploring the reasons for these failures, but how they affect black families and black relationships. I certainly may not have given enough weight in the book to issues of racism and the criminal justice system or educational policies or employer discrimination, but these topics are for my next book.
Thoughts??? Or do you need to read his whole interview first?




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the economist recently published an article on the decline 8/20/11 edition titled “The Decline of Asian Marriage” – in short marriage is declining in Asia as well – because WOMEN are rejecting marriage – same as in this instance where black women are rejecting marriage (because they don’t want to marry down).
There are tons of issues as to why marriage is failing, but none so pervasive as the effect that popular culture has on people’s perception of marriage.
Among the marriage minded – and I’m quoting – cuz I red this somewhere before – it seems that most people want to have a wedding more than they want to be married.
I’m so tired of Black women an the notion of marrying down. Just because the white man gives you a “good Job” you look down on good working class brothers. This is one of the reasons for the decline in our community. My Fathers, Grandfathers and so on were “working class” and they were great men. I wonder how many of these “upper class” black women
fair when the white man takes their “Job” away. Of course it goes both ways, Black men do this too, however if a black male doctor or lawyer marries a black woman with no college degree is that marrying down? Just asking?
Chun, weren’t you like a racist towards black people couple months ago? I’m kind of Confused.
Yes
So what happened? Your actually black?
I was always black,
So, are you like Uncle Ruckus or were you just trying to prove some sort of a point?
smh….uncle Rukus.
Women need to stay in the kitchen
And you need to jump off a bridge
…check you out……
.That was a great idea!
we should stay in the kitchen annnnddd perhaps we should start cooking crack to better support our families.!!!!!
First of all, we are not in the 14th century when teenagers got married and that was your life, nothing else.
There is more to do in life today than getting married and making babies!
Also, if you are a black woman and want to get married then you need to open your options to more than just Black men. Love is universal. If you are so stuck on having a Black man then you are limiting your chances period.
This “marriage for white people” title is stupid.
Word, marriage is not so important these days as it was decades ago. And the tittle is just gimmick, to get controversial and then sell millions of copies.
not so much disagreeing with anything you said but just saying, when you add kids, then marriage or a stable 2 family household becomes important.
The truth is Black women really don’t have that many options in the dating department. If other races wanted to date black women, black women would date them. I do IT administration at a upper-class matchmaking agency (lawyers, doctors, accountants) here in NYC and there are no Black women in the database. I asked why and was told that Black women are not desirable to the clientele. Black women having vast dating options beyond black men, for the most part is an illusion.
Contrary to popular belief there a plenty of desirable black females…..but when people see ghetto, obese, or crackheadishly skinny, poorly dressed, unkept women, with nasty attitudes, it fucks it up for the pretty black girl, with a decent upbringing…
And again a lot of people dont even know if some of these pretty black girls are african american, and assume they are something else.
As a Hamptonian woman, alot of us educated pretty black girls are attracted to attractive black men so when white and asian men try to speak to us, we think its cute and not really serious.
But if my current attractive black male relationship doesn’t work… i am willing to swirl…. for now i just dont know how i feel about sunspot flaky skin and pink wrinkled penises if we are talking about long term.
… for now i just dont know how i feel about dirty skin and monkey facial features and if we are talking about long term.
Good job adding to the discussion!
alright, break it up you two.
jesus.
***looks in mirror*** glad he wasn’t talking about me….
pecan tan with nooo monkey features lol. im just saying white peole age bad…my grandmother is white…i should know….I didnt mean to offend seriously.
This is absurd statement. Just because your grandma is white and aged bad that means white people all around the world share same characteristics? This is just plain stupidity and ignorance. I wanted to give similar statement about black people but I though about it and said I should be the mature one and intelligent, and just keep quite while you feel stupid about your fallacious statement.
No I don’t feel stupid. A lot of white people age badly. Just like a lot of blacks are obese. not all just a lot. I find many white men very attractive all the time… But to say black women are undesirable is basically the saying samething. I wasnt completely serious, tho there is alot of truth to both comments (both @chun and mine), I was being a tad sarcastic.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED THE SARCASTIC FONT.
Fuck all the racism and criticism, get in my bed baby and all the problems will go away :]
@ for real…..I like ur liberal way of thinking….I’m black….dat most black women er obsene in nature …Is true…and most whites age faster….dats also true…@least u can surf d internet and get dat info….black women have a gene in them dat make them age a lil less than d white pple…..nur I wud marry anyone I love irespective of d colour ….race…meanwhile….I’m African….pls can I come visit u…dat is on my bucket list….coming 2 America…
Funny how certain people love to beatup on socalled black women! Shows how you need to put down other people to make yourselves feel better! Even the socalled persons that claim to be black. Sounds like a bunch of KKK members posing as socalled black people! Enjoy yourselves, the disaster you are ushering in will one day be a reality, and guess what, we all will lose! Nobody will get this wonderful planet we take for granted and abuse! So go on with your evilness! as for the jackass who wrote that rediculous book! Let’s see how much he enjoys it’s spoils!
I totally agree with Mr. Banks. I am a black woman, and please someone tell ,me why is it okay for a black man to marry a white or any other race of woman and it is not okay for us to do the same. Love has no color, Please people wake up. Love is what matters.